Discussion:
No carrier detected
J. G. Nasser Olwero
2004-02-02 12:25:56 UTC
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I am brand new to hylafax and have just managed to install it. All looks
alright but when I try to send a fax, I get this error 'No carrier
detected'. What could be the problem? See below.

Nasser

From: Fascimile Agent <***@warthog.mrc-local.org>
To: ***@mrc.org
Subject: facsimile job 5 to 493333999,30050 failed

Your facsimile job to 493333999,30050 failed because:
No carrier detected; too many attempts to dial

---- Transcript of session follows ----

Feb 02 14:31:52.51: [16121]: SESSION BEGIN 00000008 25406249333399930050
Feb 02 14:31:52.51: [16121]: HylaFAX (tm) Version 4.1.8
Feb 02 14:31:52.51: [16121]: SEND FAX: JOB 5 DEST 493333999,30050 COMMID 00000008 DEVICE '/dev/ttyS3'
Feb 02 14:31:52.51: [16121]: DELAY 75 ms
Feb 02 14:31:52.58: [16121]: DELAY 2600 ms
Feb 02 14:31:56.19: [16121]: DELAY 10 ms
Feb 02 14:31:56.20: [16121]: <-- [4:ATZ\r]
Feb 02 14:31:56.81: [16121]: --> [2:OK]
Feb 02 14:31:56.81: [16121]: DELAY 3000 ms
Feb 02 14:31:59.81: [16121]: <-- [5:ATE0\r]
Feb 02 14:31:59.82: [16121]: --> [4:ATE0]
Feb 02 14:31:59.82: [16121]: --> [2:OK]
Feb 02 14:31:59.82: [16121]: <-- [5:ATV1\r]
Feb 02 14:31:59.83: [16121]: --> [2:OK]
Feb 02 14:31:59.83: [16121]: <-- [5:ATQ0\r]
Feb 02 14:31:59.84: [16121]: --> [2:OK]
Feb 02 14:31:59.84: [16121]: <-- [7:ATS0=0\r]
Feb 02 14:31:59.85: [16121]: --> [2:OK]
Feb 02 14:31:59.85: [16121]: <-- [7:ATS8=2\r]
Feb 02 14:31:59.86: [16121]: --> [2:OK]
Feb 02 14:31:59.86: [16121]: <-- [8:ATS7=60\r]
Feb 02 14:31:59.87: [16121]: --> [2:OK]
Feb 02 14:31:59.87: [16121]: <-- [12:AT+FCLASS=1\r]
Feb 02 14:31:59.88: [16121]: --> [2:OK]
Feb 02 14:31:59.88: [16121]: <-- [7:ATL1M1\r]
Feb 02 14:31:59.89: [16121]: --> [2:OK]
Feb 02 14:31:59.89: [16121]: <-- [12:AT+FCLASS=1\r]
Feb 02 14:32:00.00: [16121]: --> [2:OK]
Feb 02 14:32:00.00: [16121]: DIAL 493333999,30050
Feb 02 14:32:00.00: [16121]: <-- [20:ATDT493333999,30050\r]
Feb 02 14:32:22.00: [16121]: --> [10:NO CARRIER]
Feb 02 14:32:22.00: [16121]: SEND FAILED: JOB 5 DEST 493333999,30050 ERR No carrier detected
Feb 02 14:32:22.00: [16121]: SEND FAILED: JOB 5 DEST 493333999,30050 ERR No carrier detected; too many attempts to dial
Feb 02 14:32:22.00: [16121]: <-- [5:ATH0\r]
Feb 02 14:32:23.11: [16121]: --> [2:OK]
Feb 02 14:32:23.11: [16121]: SESSION END

---- Unsent job status ----

Destination: 493333999,30050
JobID: 5
GroupID: 5
Sender: jgnasser
Mailaddr: ***@mrc.org
CommID: 00000008
Submitted From: localhost
Page Width: 215 (mm)
Page Length: 279 (mm)
Resolution: 98 (lpi)
Status: No carrier detected; too many attempts to dial
Dialogs: 0 (exchanges with remote device)
Dials: 1 (consecutive failed calls to destination)
Calls: 1 (total phone calls placed)
Pages: 0 (pages transmitted)
TotPages: 2 (total pages to transmit)
Attempts: 0 (attempts to send current page)
Dirnum: 0 (directory of next page to send)

---- Documents submitted for transmission ----

The following documents were submitted for transmission and are
available on the server for reuse until they are automatically
purged when this job is removed. Documents may also be manually
removed using the faxrm command; consult faxrm(1) for information.

Filename Size Type
docq/doc5.cover 0 PostScript cover page
docq/doc9.ps 20757 PostScript


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Lee Howard
2004-02-02 17:34:07 UTC
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Post by J. G. Nasser Olwero
I am brand new to hylafax and have just managed to install it. All looks
alright but when I try to send a fax, I get this error 'No carrier
detected'. What could be the problem?
The number you dialed is not a fax number.

Lee.

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Abacus Computer
2004-02-02 19:20:52 UTC
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Hi Lee,

sorry, but this is not completely correct.

There can be a lot of possibilities.
If this is a phone-line, you will not get this message.

You get it only if
- this number is not in use or incorrect
- your provider cannot connect you to this number at this time
(this is also possible on a bad line with international calls)
- the number is disturbed

So it is a good idea to redial.

regards
Christian
Post by Lee Howard
Post by J. G. Nasser Olwero
I am brand new to hylafax and have just managed to install it. All looks
alright but when I try to send a fax, I get this error 'No carrier
detected'. What could be the problem?
The number you dialed is not a fax number.
Lee.
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Lee Howard
2004-02-02 18:32:35 UTC
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Post by Abacus Computer
Hi Lee,
sorry, but this is not completely correct.
Not that I particularly want to continue a debate on the meaning of "no
carrier", but I was not wanting to confuse Mr. Olwero, so I gave him
the easy answer. I could have gone on through the full list of
possibilities: no answer, wrong number, disconnected number, voice
number, long voice-message before fax detection, broken modem, etc.
But I wanted to keep things easy.
Post by Abacus Computer
There can be a lot of possibilities.
Indeed.
Post by Abacus Computer
If this is a phone-line, you will not get this message.
Voice line, you mean? Not that I want to debate it further, but on
analog systems yes, you will get "no carrier". The "no carrier"
message is broad and simply put means that no fax carrier was found on
the other end. A voice line does not produce a fax carrier.
Post by Abacus Computer
You get it only if
- this number is not in use or incorrect
- your provider cannot connect you to this number at this time
(this is also possible on a bad line with international calls)
- the number is disturbed
And about a bzillion other possibilities.

Lee.

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Florent Guiliani
2004-02-03 08:04:38 UTC
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Hi all,

<My experience>
Like J. G. Nasser Olwero I've got 'No carrier detected' when I tried to
send faxes.
I had change to blank this fields in the config file: (config.ttyS0)
CountryCode:
AreaCode:
LongDistancePrefix:
InternationalPrefix:
And now I can send fax without errors.
</My experience>

Florent,
Post by Abacus Computer
Hi Lee,
sorry, but this is not completely correct.
There can be a lot of possibilities.
If this is a phone-line, you will not get this message.
You get it only if
- this number is not in use or incorrect
- your provider cannot connect you to this number at this time
(this is also possible on a bad line with international calls)
- the number is disturbed
So it is a good idea to redial.
regards
Christian
Post by Lee Howard
Post by J. G. Nasser Olwero
I am brand new to hylafax and have just managed to install it. All looks
alright but when I try to send a fax, I get this error 'No carrier
detected'. What could be the problem?
The number you dialed is not a fax number.
Lee.
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Joshua Eric Turcotte
2004-02-02 18:20:49 UTC
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Or, might it more or less be that the fax didn't pick up? For instance,
you'd get a no carrier attempting to dial my fax if I do not manually pick
it up, hit Receive Fax, and hang it back up.

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From: "Lee Howard" <***@howardsilvan.com>
To: "J. G. Nasser Olwero" <***@mpala.org>
Cc: <hylafax-***@hylafax.org>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [hylafax-users] No carrier detected
Post by Lee Howard
Post by J. G. Nasser Olwero
I am brand new to hylafax and have just managed to install it. All looks
alright but when I try to send a fax, I get this error 'No carrier
detected'. What could be the problem?
The number you dialed is not a fax number.
Lee.
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